BRIAN DARR'S HOMME FATALE LIST

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--Girish Shambu's blog
http://www.girishshambu.com/blog/2007/05/crime-film.html

Girish, to tell you the truth, I think I can’t distinguish for sure between film noir, criminal psychology film, or gangster film. I feel very confused when it comes to this kind of thing.

Brian, thank you very much for the homme fatale? list. I just talked to one Thai blogger about this topic, so I think I may have to quote your list when I talk about this topic further in some Thai webboards. :-)

As for Rattana Pestonji's BLACK SILK (1961), I think don't have enough knowledge about film noir to judge how much noir this film is. Hahaha. I saw this film ten years ago, and can remember it vaguely. I think this film reminds me of GOLDEN MARIE (CASQUE D'OR) (1952, Jacques Becker), because they both tells a story of a criminal's life and romantic trouble. I don't remember any femme fatale in BLACK SILK, because the heroine of BLACK SILK is very virtuous. The tone of BLACK SILK is not as gloomy as most film noirs, I guess. One good thing about BLACK SILK is that it shows a criminal life in a more realistic or dramatic manner than most Thai films that I saw. I think criminal lives in other Thai films tend to be shown in a comic way, if they are not in action films.

As for THE DUMB DIE FAST, THE SMART DIE SLOW, what I like very much about this film is the intention of the director and one indelible image. In the early 1990's, most Thai films were craps. Most of them are sloppily-made low comedy concerning teenagers or ghosts. So when someone tried to make a Thai film noir during that period, I had to admire his intention, though the result might not be as good as his intention. I think the story of this film is not really interesting. The film is not really powerful. It's just very different from most Thai films at that time. However, one image from this film haunt my mind ever since; it's the image of the femme fatale walking with her umbrella.

Alex, I like your list for something to meditate upon very much. As for Godard and Goodis, I looked into the book GODARD ON GODARD and found that Godard mentioned Goodis once in this book. In the topic 84 concerning TAWARA BEACHHEAD, he wrote:

"Of Paul Wendkos, we have already seen and quite liked THE BURGLAR, a film which is a little too aesthetic to match the original, a novel by David Goodis, a man with a fluent talent whom Truffaut ranges alongside Dashiell Hammett on his bedside-table, the proof being that he plans to shoot his TIREZ SUR LE PIANISTE, which promises 800 blows. Paul Wendkos, therefore, is a filmmaker not to lose sight of, since he for his part never loses sight of the cinema."

Talking about Goodis, I love THE MOON IN THE GUTTER (1983, Jean-Jacques Beineix), which was adapted from Goodis' work. But I don't know how different the film is from the source.


--new Screenout webboard
http://www.xq28.net/wow/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=192&start=75

ตอบคุณ OLIVER

เคยตั้งข้อสงสัยไว้ใน BLOG ของคุณ OLIVER ว่ามีตัวละครประเภท HOMME FATALE บ้างหรือเปล่า
http://riverdale-dreams.blogspot.com/2007/03/memento.html

พอดีได้คุยกับคุณ BRIAN DARR จากบล็อก http://hellonfriscobay.blogspot.com/ โดยเป็นการคุยกันในบล็อกของคุณ GIRISH SHAMBU ปรากฏว่าคุณ BRIAN DARR ก็เลยลิสท์รายชื่อหนังที่อาจจะมีตัวละครประเภท HOMME FATALE มาให้ดูดังนี้ค่ะ

English translation: Brian Darr from http://hellonfriscobay.blogspot.com/ wrote a very interesting list of films with "homme fatale?" characters in Girsh Shambu's blog. Here's what Brian Darr wrote:
http://www.girishshambu.com/blog/2007/05/crime-film.html

"As for films in which women get lured into crime or decption by a male character (perhaps an "homme fatale"?) Some that come to mind include Raw Deal (Anthony Mann, 1948), the Spiritualist (Bernard Vorhaus, 1948), Woman on the Run (Norman Foster, 1950), maybe Born to Kill (Robert Wise, 1947) and Pickup on South Street (Sam Fuller, 1953). None of these men's crimes and seduction converge in quite the same way as in House of Games though. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a more specific antecedent."



ส่วนตัวละครประเภท HOMME FATALE (หรือผู้ชายเลวๆที่ทำให้เรารู้สึกยินดีที่ได้ "อมฝ่าเท้า" ของเขา) ที่ทุกคนรู้จักกันดีที่สุด คงหนีไม่พ้นสามีของน้อง MATT ในหนังเรื่อง BAD EDUCATION


DVD COVERS OF HOMME FATALE FILMS

HOUSE OF GAMES (1987, David Mamet)
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BORN TO KILL (1947, Robert Wise)
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RAW DEAL (1948, Anthony Mann)
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THE SPIRITUALIST OR THE AMAZING MR.X (1948, Bernard Vorhaus)
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WOMAN ON THE RUN (1950, Norman Foster)
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PICKUP ON SOUTH STREET (1953, Samuel Fuller)
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